Podcasts are Losing Critical Third-Party Measurement

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PodMov Daily: Wednesday, February 23

Episode 596: Your Midweek Update

Podcasts are Losing Critical Third-Party Measurement

“Last week, Spotify turned two of the biggest names in third-party podcast measurement into first-party solutions,” writes Sounds Profitable editor Bryan Barletta. As independent companies, Podsights and Chartable have provided ad buyers (and the whole ecosystem) with unbiased proof of performance. What now?

Barletta explains how each company’s tools have served podcasting and how they’ll now enhance Spotify’s edge. With outsized or exclusive access to detailed, unified data across every platform, the company will essentially be ‘grading its own homework’ when it comes to competition for advertisers and publishers.

An accountable framework is crucial to solving this problem, Barletta says. “We need the remaining third-party measurement and attribution companies to collaborate on all of this, with buy-in from major publishers, buyers, and hosting platforms.” Podcasting isn’t yet a walled-garden ad monolith, and it doesn’t have to be.


You're Wrong About (This Hit-Podcast Stereotype)

The acclaimed podcast You're Wrong About is often the top-ranking history show in Apple Podcasts. It brings in 3.25 million to 4 million downloads a month, just won the title of Podcast of the Year at the iHeartRadio Podcast Awards, and this: In its four years since launch, You’re Wrong About has never run an ad.

Eliana Dockterman of Time spoke with Sarah Marshall, who has hosted the show solo since last fall. She and her founding co-host Michael Hobbes rejected every buyout offer, an unusual move. Instead, the show relies primarily on product sales and bonus episode subscriptions from 26,7600 monthly supporters on Patreon.

In the third quarter of 2021,You’re Wrong About was one of just four independent shows in the top 50. At a time when podcasts are being ‘gobbled up,’ as Dockterman puts it, it’s easy to make assumptions about a chart-topper’s role in the ad universe. We were wrong about You’re Wrong About, and are glad to have learned.

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May your choices reflect your hopes, not your fears.

Here's what else is going on:

  • Stay classy: Will Ferrell (yes, that Will Ferrell) is the first keynote speaker announced for PM Evolutions. Joining iHeartPodcast Network CEO Conal Byrne, the actor and comedian will dish on hosting The Ron Burgundy Podcast and the growth of his podcast venture, Big Money Players Network.
  • Course code: NPR’s College Podcast Challenge is accepting submissions until February 28. This year’s winner will be awarded a $5,000 scholarship and each finalist will receive $500. “Podcasting takes time and effort and we think it should be rewarded,” the organizers say. Find details here.
  • Money clip: The Podca$h sponsorship program will accept applications until March 4. Two companies, Racket and Stir, plan to deliver payments between $250 and $5,000 to emerging podcasters based on their ideas. Qualified creators will have earned under $10,000 in sponsorships to date.

Brennan Tapp

Brennan is the Managing Editor of Podcast Movement. As the PodMov Daily newsletter czar, she is probably reading or writing at this very moment. Her career has spanned scientific research, academia, and fashion, with clients including The Neiman Marcus Group, Belo + Company, Baylor Scott & White, and Thomson Reuters. She’s glad to have found her home in podcasting and highly recommends "The Memory Palace," which is best listened to on a night drive. She lives in Dallas with her cats, Sushi and Simon.

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